I’ve been recently having a debate online about the issue of the disproportional representation of Muslims in rape statistics in the Nordic countries. As a part of the discussion, I posted the link to this Norwegian radio interview. The Somali and Senegalese men being interviewed are of the opinion that Norwegian girls and women have themselves to blame for being abused. Here is a rough English translation of the article:
P4 (Oslo) When Norwegian girls are halfnaked in public it like saying “come and fuck me” says the three African men.
Lawyer Abid Raja is working one week as a reporter for P4 and has visited a café inGrønland Oslo. Here he comes in contact with three young men (26, 30 and 35) from Somalia and Senegal
The guys, although not wishing to sate their names is happy to talk with p4 abut the wave of assault and rapes in the capital. (You can hear the interview to the right)
-Honestly? Norwegians are awful.
-What do you mean?
-I mean everything, especially the food it’s just awful.
-What do you think about Norwegian women?
-They are something completely different! He says with his friends laughing.
- As they daily wrote this Monday at least 10 different women were assaulted and accosted by a gang of boys of Somalian decent by the Sofienberg-park in Oslo Saturday night.Last year it was reported a record high 161 rapes and 35 attempted rapes in Oslo. The perpetrator in over 70% had a background other than Norwegian.
-But listen here, Norwegian Girls are complaining that foreign boys do this and that, but the reason so many rapes happen is that Norwegian girls are almost completely naked. It’s like saying “come here and fuck me” understand?
-So you are saying Norwegian girls are asking to be raped?
-Not exactly asking, but when you are outside almost completely naked and get drunk in some park or at some party with friends, and then complain about getting raped? It’s their own fault. Says the 26 year old from Somalia.
-But even if they are wearing little clothes and get drunk they aren’t asking to be raped?
-No but several foreigners here aren’t used to this where they are from. They aren’t used to girls dressing as they please, so maybe they misinterpret this, understand?
-When asked about the gang of boys that this weekend assaulted several girls, tackled them and ripped of their clothes they explain this with the very young age of the boys.
-Weren’t these boys very young? Like 13-14? I think they were curious on how women look. They were so young they didn’t know what they were doing say the 35 year old man from Somalia.
The 30 year old from Senegal says African men respects women, but assaults happen when the men drink.
-We from Senegal don’t like to talk with Norwegian men, but we like Norwegian women. This is because African culture respects women, but not men .(says the 30 year old man from Senegal)
-Then why are young African men attacking young Norwegian women.
-That happens sometimes. When we drink to much we sometimes assault them, but if we don’t drink we don’t attack, we respect them. Says the man from Senegal in fractured English.
-It is the 26 year old from Somalia that talks the most. He believes several people in the Somalia community share their point of view.
-Don’t you think people will be scared that you have these points of view if we air this interview?
-Air it because it is true. That is how it is, it’s the facts, I am not lying. I have never dated a Norwegian women but I have been with several. They are mostly very nice and awesome in bed.
Many of the participants of our discussion were appalled by these attitudes, including many that defend large-scale immigration from the Third World. But I think the men are right.
I agree very much though with the notion that Norwegian girls are getting abused because they are naive. They take things for granted, that are incompatible with multicultural society. They live according to their own cultural norms, one of which is the relative untouchability of a woman against her will, in a society where there are cultural groups that have diverging cultural norms and attitudes. But one has to look at the big picture. What causes this naivety?
I think here much of the blame has to be laid on the shoulders of those politicians and individuals in the media and elsewhere that create and percipitate such a distorted world-view, which lulls Norwegians (of both sexes) into this false sense of security.
Once people start realizing the full consequences and implications of the current social and demographic developments and the political ideals that guide them, once people think things to their logical conclusion, there would be much more opposition. The silent agreement that persists at least in Nordic politics and public debate concerning such issues as immigration and the social ideal of multiculturalism (a step into an absolutely opposite direction from the core principles of the nation state) would be called into question and the status quo would be shaken. Not something the current socio-political order would welcome.
Our traditional identities have been called into question, ridiculed and marginalized out of all role and function in society, while we are to be intrigued and excited by the identities of foreign groups. Our right to our own countries, our own nation states, has been waved off without so much as any public discussion. At the same time new identities are quite openly being manipulated to accomodate a cosmopolitan, heterogenous and rootless population. Words are given new meanings to distort reality to better fit a vision. Anyone trying to bring up a point of view counter to this development becomes immediatly branded. Everyone is to have an everyman’s right to the countries that our ancestors have cleared out for us, without there being any sympathy for opinions counter to these universalist ideals. Our national sovereignty has been quietly shipped off to Brussels and our politicians tell each other than Finland must be near the core of decision making in the international community – they have to, because increasingly such “international communities”, with offices far from here, control our daily lives.
This is 1984.